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class=\u0022highlight-green\u0022\u003E@Dinah\u003C\/strong\u003E Ich finde, dass Sie v\u00f6llig recht damit haben, \u0022Gegenideologien\u0022 misstrauisch zu be\u00e4ugen. Es kann ja nicht darum gehen, einfach das Gegenteil zu machen, was Progressive denken und dann wird schon.\u0026nbsp;\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EAber ich denke, es ist m\u00f6glich auszudr\u00fccken, was die Unterschiede sind und wo man hin will. Das Progressive ist prinzipiell darauf aus, Widerspr\u00fcche zu eliminieren. Es geht immer darum, eine komplette Erf\u00fcllung aller W\u00fcnsche in Aussicht zu stellen. Alle sollen tolle Karrieren haben, ein erf\u00fclltes Familienleben und keine Carearbeit mehr leisten m\u00fcssen. (Das machen dann Roboter, nehme ich an.) Man will keinen Imperialismus, aber progressiv diverse Gesellschaften in Belgrad, Teheran, Moskau und Lagos. Und den technischen Fortschritt.\u0026nbsp;\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EAls Christen sind wir uns der Tatsache bewu\u00dft, dass jeder menschlicher Zustand ein trade-off ist. Wir sind S\u00fcnderinnen und S\u00fcnder und jede Entscheidung f\u00fcr etwas ist auch eine gegen etwas anderes.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EDie Progressiven wollen alles haben und sich aus der Forderung nach dem Unm\u00f6glichen f\u00fcr Elitenprinzess*innen Karrieren ergeben, die in Prestige und Mehrwert umgesetzt werden k\u00f6nnen. Die Progressiven sind die Klasse des Mode-industriellen Komplexes, sozusagen Fashionisten. 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8 Monate 4 Wochen\u003C\/span\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/span\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E  \u003C\/div\u003E\n\u003C\/span\u003E\u003C\/div\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022views-field views-field-fieldset-1 view-comment-row\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022field-content\u0022\u003E  \u003Cdiv  class=\u0022view-comment-wrapper-comment-body\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022views-field views-field-comment-body\u0022\u003E\u003Cdiv class=\u0022field-content\u0022\u003E\u003Cp\u003E\u003Cstrong class=\u0022highlight-green\u0022\u003E@Jurek Molnar\u003C\/strong\u003E\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003E\u003Cem\u003E\u201eAber ich denke, es ist m\u00f6glich auszudr\u00fccken, was die Unterschiede sind und wo man hin will.\u201c\u003C\/em\u003E\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EDa kann ich mit Ihnen mitgehen. Der Progressive in seinem Fortschrittsglauben verspricht den materiellen Himmel auf Erden durch Anpassungsprozesse und Umverteilung und der Konservative verspricht den materiellen Himmel auf Erden durch Leistungserbringung. Materielle Erfolge stellen sich unter Umst\u00e4nden in Wechselwirkung tats\u00e4chlich ein, die versprochene Gl\u00fcckseligkeit ist in der Regel jedoch von kurzer Dauer, da ein Gew\u00f6hnungseffekt entsteht und deshalb immer weiter umverteilt und weiter geleistet werden muss, ganz abgesehen von damit verbundenen unguten gesellschaftlichen und menschlichen Verhaltensweisen.\u0026nbsp;\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EEchte, bleibende Freude im Leben kann im \u00c4u\u00dferen jedoch nicht generiert werden. Diese Freude im Leben ist geistlicher Natur und deshalb unverg\u00e4nglich. Die wahre Unabh\u00e4ngigkeitserkl\u00e4rung im Leben ist im Glauben zu finden, unter anderem durch die umfassende Akzeptanz und Bejahung des Lebens.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EDie Frage ist also, welche Freude man im Leben sucht! Die kurzfristige oder die ewige? 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Ich kann da nur zustimmen. Ihre Antwort hat mich jedoch auf eine weitere Unterscheidung aufmerksam gemacht, die mir in den letzten Jahren st\u00e4rker zu Bewu\u00dftsein gekommen ist: n\u00e4mlich wie man soziale Probleme behandelt und welche L\u00f6sungen man daf\u00fcr bevorzugt.\u0026nbsp;\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EProgressive und linke Zeitgenossinnen und Zeitgenossen sind \u00fcberzeugt davon, dass die Ursache aller sozialen Verwerfungen mit Geld erschlagen werden kann. Das Umverteilungsmantra und Sozialstaatsmantra bauen darauf, dass Geldmangel f\u00fcr Armut hauptverantwortlich ist und mit gen\u00fcgend Geldmitteln erfolgreich behoben werden kann.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EAls Christ sehe ich jedoch, dass es gerade in den sozialen Verwerfungen Dinge gibt, die man mit Geld nicht kaufen kann. Schlechte Eltern werden nicht zu besseren Eltern, wenn man sie nur ausreichend alimentiert. Das Verantwortungsgef\u00fchl f\u00fcr Kinder, die Liebe und Zuneigung, die notwendig ist, um andere Menschen auf Kurs zu halten, kann man nicht mit Geld aufwiegen. Leute, die andere pflegen, kann man nat\u00fcrlich mit finanzieller Unterst\u00fctzung entlasten, aber den Impuls sich um die demente, bettl\u00e4gerige Mutter oder Gro\u00dfmutter zu k\u00fcmmern, bekommt man nicht durch finanzielle Anreize, dieser Impuls muss schon da sein. Sich um Kinder zu k\u00fcmmern und das eigene Wohlbefinden hintanzustellen ist nicht kaufbar.\u003C\/p\u003E\n\u003Cp\u003EProgressive Feministinnen verwenden den Verweis auf \u0022Carearbeit\u0022 (auch wenn sie selbst keine Kinder haben oder pflegende Angeh\u00f6rige sind) als Waffe, die dann in Ideen m\u00fcndet, wie letztens in der ZEIT, dass M\u00e4nner Frauen f\u00fcr die angebliche Carearbeit bezahlen sollen. 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